Unlocking The Best In People With Ashley Herd – This Week’s Thinking With Mitch Joel Conversation

Episode #1036 of Thinking With Mitch Joel is now live.

This conversation with Ashley Herd gets into one of the stranger contradictions inside modern work: companies keep saying people are their greatest asset… and then often promote people into management roles with almost no preparation for actually leading humans. That gap is where Ashley has built her work. She is the author of The Manager Method – A Practical Framework to Lead, Support, and Get Results, founder of Manager Method, a former employment lawyer, and someone who has worked across legal, HR, and leadership roles with organizations including McKinsey, Yum Brands, and others. She has also become a major voice on social media, where hundreds of thousands of people follow her practical role plays, scripts, and real-world guidance for managers trying to handle the conversations nobody prepared them for.

What makes Ashley’s work land is not that she is selling another abstract leadership theory.

It is that she is dealing with the messy middle of management. The uncomfortable performance conversation. The employee who needs feedback. The manager who stays silent because they are afraid of saying the wrong thing. The team member who hears nothing and assumes the worst. The high performer who gets promoted and suddenly discovers that doing the work well is not the same as helping other people do the work well. Her framework is built around three deceptively simple words: Pause, Consider, Act. That may sound obvious, but the obvious things are often the first things organizations skip. We reward speed. We celebrate responsiveness. We confuse fast answers with good leadership. Ashley makes the case that a manager’s real power often begins in the moment before they react. In this conversation, we talk about why so many managers are set up to fail, how workplace expectations have changed since the pandemic, why silence is one of the most damaging habits in leadership, and how AI might become a useful thought partner for managers if it is used to help people think better… not just sound better. Mostly, this is a conversation about the human layer of work. The part no dashboard can manage. The part no job title automatically teaches. The part where culture actually happens.

The episode is now live. Listen to my conversation with Ashley Herd here: Unlocking The Best In People With Ashley Herd – TWMJ #1036.

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