You can spend years developing an idea, months writing a book and months working with (and paying) a PR firm to get the media interested in it… what happens next is on you.
Podcasts are closer to broadcast television than ever before. If, after all your work, you show up for the conversation with a laptop microphone and webcam sitting in the same position as when you work… and a window behind your head, the audience gets a voice bouncing around a room and a silhouette with an unflattering view up your nose explaining why your work matters. My hot take? Somewhere in your process, preparation to get your message out to the world stopped too soon. Back in 2022, I wrote, How To Be The Most Popular Guest On Every Podcast. In a post-Covid work from home world, the challenges of having guests look and sound great haven’t gone away (shockingly)… it feels like time to revisit the subject.
A podcast appearance is a shared commitment.
The host brings preparation, production and a relationship with an audience. The guest brings expertise, experience and a willingness to share. The audience brings something neither of us should take for granted: their time. Being a great guest means taking all three contributions seriously. That begins well before anyone presses record. If you are a guest, an author, an executive or a PR professional arranging these appearances, consider this both an invitation and a practical guide. I want guests to have an excellent experience. I want their ideas to come through clearly. And I want us to spend our time having the conversation we came to have. A little preparation makes all of that possible… and it’s critical to keep the audience engaged.
Start here…
Understand the show you have agreed to join. Listen to an episode (or more). Ideally, listen to enough of one to hear how the conversation develops after the introduction. Read the description… get a sense of the host’s interests… the audience and the pace. A booking confirmation tells you when to show up… it does not tell you what kind of contribution will be valuable when you get there. On my show, Thinking With Mitch Joel, we explore ideas that are changing business, leadership, technology, culture and how we understand the world around us. I am interested in people with a distinctive body of work. People with original ideas, deep expertise, meaningful experience or an unusual perspective. People who can challenge familiar assumptions and are willing to examine their own. Often, it’s a new book that introduces me to that person. The book may provide the doorway into the conversation… but it cannot be the entire conversation. I prepare extensively… I read the guest’s work… I arrive with areas I want to explore… the conversation then develops through what we each hear, question and discover.
That is why I do not really think of these as “interviews”.
The intent is to think together. A guest who understands that can relax into the conversation. There is room to follow an idea far enough that something interesting happens… and that requires a particular kind of preparation… Know your work deeply. Be ready to explain where your conclusions came from, what supports them and where they might stop being useful. Bring examples… think about the strongest objection to your argument… consider what you have changed your mind about. Those are useful things to have available in your head. Guests should be articulate and still think out loud. They can pause… they can say, “I have not considered that,” or, “Here is where I am less certain.” Disagreement is welcome…so is reconsideration. Intellectual honesty gives the audience something worth trusting.
The same care needs to extend to how that conversation is recorded.
It is easy to assume that a setup that works for everyday video calls will work for a podcast. But in a work meeting, people may tolerate poor sound because they need to be there. An audience gets to leave. Good production helps people stay with a complicated idea. It lets them hear the qualification… the hesitation… the humour… and that matters. Bigger thought: Technical preparation is part of communicating well.
For Thinking With Mitch Joel, the following are the remote recording requirements (other shows may have different requirements, so always read what the host needs)…
You do not need to turn your home into a broadcast studio.
Owning a microphone and recording through that microphone are separate things. It can be plugged in, sitting on the desk and looking very professional, but if you don’t sound your best… what’s the point? The most useful preparation is a rehearsal of the technical setup with a friend or colleague. Well before the recording day, do some tests using the computer, microphone, headphones, camera and room you intend to use. Get comrotable in that space. Once we’re recording we want all of the tech to melt away so that the conversation can take us everywhere.
For PR professionals… this is part of preparing your clients for success.
Forwarding the requirements and getting the booking is a necessary step… but following up establishes whether they have been understood and acted on. But… maybe even before taking on a new thought leadership client, PR professionals should know if the client…
Let’s protect and value the opportunity everyone is working so hard to secure.
If you reach out to a podcaster and they agree, don’t suddenly turn it back on the podcaster to provide demographic, download information, audience analytics and more. If you reached out to a show, it’s because you’ve already ascertained it’s a fit for your client. It’s just lazy to do it the other way around. Provide the book (in digital format) or relevant material with enough lead time for the host to read it. Include a concise biography, the correct pronunciation of the guest’s name, useful links and suitable photographs. Explain why this guest’s work might matter to this audience. If there are subjects the guest cannot discuss, raise those before booking so we can establish whether the conversation is a fit. For my show expect an unscripted exchange… I prepare areas of inquiry, and the questions develop as we speak (said another way: no questions are provided in advance).
Once we start, bring your full attention.
No email… no texting… no quiet work on another screen… attention is visible… it is audible, too. Give the conversation space. A brief pause can help both people avoid talking over each other. I am far more interested in understanding how someone arrived at an idea than hearing the same patter replicated from show to show. Remember, too, that people may encounter the conversation long after it was recorded. Give dates and events enough context to make sense later. Avoid assuming that a listener knows what “this week” refers to or can see something you are holding up to the camera… help the conversation remain useful.
I promise you this: depth of preparation and a thoughtful conversation… and you should expect that from every host.
The audience deserves the same care from both of us. No one person can guarantee a brilliant exchange… the interesting part happens between two people, and some of it has to remain unpredictable. Preparation buys us the freedom to forget about the equipment and become absorbed in the ideas and conversation. If your work is worth asking people to spend an hour with, give them every opportunity to hear it (and see it) clearly.
Now, let’s see where the conversation goes…
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